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I don't know about you, but when I am faced with a lot of uncertainty I am often hesitant to say or write too much in case I end up having to eat my words later. Because, you know, paper doesn't really taste very good. Or computer screens, for that matter.



Anyway. I ended up writing a little bit in the comments on my last entry about the overall situation with moving to Texas. It's complicated, of course. I suppose life gets complicated for everybody at some stage or another. The big unknowns for me amount to:

I don't know what I'm doing with my life (yeah, join the club, I know). Is it worth it to move to a state that terrifies me*, if by moving I also have a chance to work with scientists doing very exciting work? In a lot of ways, eastern Texas might as well be a foreign country for me: foreign culture, and far away from the places I call home. I won't be able to do all that much traveling, really, given that I dislike flying. It's a big leap to move that far away from things that are familiar to me. On the other hand, I can think about what would happen if I were to stay in Arizona or move somewhere else, like back up to Washington (the next-most-likely place for me to go, given that my family's there). As my friend [livejournal.com profile] trifold_flame put it, this is a point where academics start to make decisions that limit the number of available future avenues. Postdocs leave way more options open than teaching positions. But I have to revisit some "whatifs": if I ended up as a full-time instructor somewhere instead, and let go of my development as a researcher, would I like it? Would I be satisfied in the long term?

I honestly feel like, in some respects, Arizona has been terrible for my intellectual development. I don't know if it's that graduate school just makes me feel more stupid, or if it's that I wind up spending too much time trying to just take care of my life that I don't have or make time to read enough, or read the right things. I'd almost blame the good weather. I could also attribute it to the fact that I spend a good portion of my time around non-academics, even if I'm not always directly associating with them (I'm thinking of overhearing inane conversations in coffeeshops, here).

I also just don't know what will happen between [livejournal.com profile] scrottie and myself. I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I know he's equally or even more terrified of Texas than I am. His reasons are a bit different, but are related to a fear of social isolation and also the fact that there are a lot of places where he cannot physically live due to his sensitivity to organophosphate pesticides. At some point, you should spend a bit of time browsing through the modes of action of most commonly used insecticides. Insects aren't magically different from other animals, you know, and so things designed to kill insects generally have negative side-effects for other animals, including ourselves. Given those two huge caveats, it's all too easy for me to imagine worst-case scenarios that leave me in Texas, by myself. And that sends me back to thinking about the last time I felt really alone, when I was sick with mono and living by myself in the garage on Maple Ave. It's also putting me in one of those places where I can sympathize with the extremes that people (that I) will go to, to avoid getting hurt. There are times when it's hard to keep at it, not knowing what will happen or where resentment might be lurking.

On top of those unknowns, I have to say that I have a hard time (from a philosophical standpoint) asking another person to give up important aspects of his or her lifestyle and ideals so I can pursue my interests. I have had conversations with other couples where it's clear that one person has a strong desire to relocate and the other person honestly doesn't mind. But when I start to wonder about how that relates to traditional gender roles and my feelings about women as leaders...It is far from a simple matter. Part of me is very hardheaded and wants to put my development as a leader first and foremost; women have a lot to offer the world and think and lead differently. I have to speak from what I know: I know that many of the important and inspirational leaders and mentors in my life have been women who have faced far greater challenges than I have faced, and I feel compelled to give back as well. That cannot happen from staying in place and growing complacent. I must move. But then again, is it worth it to give up the life that I've built here, so far? Is it worth it to go through the violent process of tearing up roots to relocate (I perceive moving as a violent/destructive act)? A lot of the things that have brought me life satisfaction and happiness in Arizona have come from getting to know this place in its seasons and peculiarities. When it comes to making personal decisions, of course there's no right answer. I still can't help asking the questions.


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*Part of me is tempted to "try out" being a Republican for a year, investigative-journalist style. I might be too scared to do so, though...Can you imagine me showing up to caucuses, adding tremendous amounts of confusion? No, there's no way I could pull it off.

Date: 2011-09-15 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gfrancie.livejournal.com
They say that moving is one of the most stressful things you can experience -even when it is a positive sort of move.

OMG please dear god do NOT try to be a republican for a year. (espcially an election year) Oh Sweet jesus... That is too much crazy.

Date: 2011-09-15 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rebeccmeister.livejournal.com
Ahaha, I am thinking more in the Stephen Colbert sense than the voter registration sense. I also keep forgetting that other states do things differently than Arizona: in Arizona, if you register as an independent, you can still vote in primaries and choose which political party's primary you wish to vote in. [livejournal.com profile] scrottie said there actually was an election where he voted Republican because it was really important to make sure that the wingbat candidate didn't make it onto the ballot.

Date: 2011-09-15 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gfrancie.livejournal.com
But these are TEXAS republicans. They are a whole other bag of crazy. Remember these people don't believe in anything rational. NOTHING. Look at the Texas board of education. They embrace stupidity like I embrace a chocolate cake.

Date: 2011-09-16 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annikusrex.livejournal.com
i know, moving is so stressful! i am also freaked about DC and not knowing anyone and my new job. but i think i remember you saying similar things about AZ when you were first moving there. and a post-doc is so short, in the long run. if you don't like it, you can always aim elsewhere for your next job. (i just looked it up, and 35% of brazos county voted for obama in 2008. not 0! all the Ds probably all work at the university too.) i think it comes down to this: what is the best move for you and your future? what gives you the most flexibility to choose the life you want to live in the longer term? one of your special skills is seeking out like-minded people through extra-curricular activities, whether it be biking or rowing or art or monty python clubs or whatever. one of the (very minor!) downsides to your skill is a place feels very homey once you've figured out a niche, and it's hard to move on. just remember that you've done this before, and you can do it again.

Date: 2011-09-16 12:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annikusrex.livejournal.com
Also, the world needs more lady scientists! Don't let your brother be the only Dr. Clark who gets quoted in the New York Times, just because his SO is more flexible about relocating. NOT FAIR! (I have strong feelings about this--see the other Rebecca.)

Date: 2011-09-16 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rebeccmeister.livejournal.com
I think my brother and I differ philosophically on some important aspects of doing science, especially when it comes to questions of place. He does have someone strongly urging him to find a job somewhere in the western US, though.

And I definitely spend time thinking about what has happened with a number of different people in my life, including you, the other Rebecca, and many other women, some of whom have pursued careers and some of whom have switched gears to focus on other aspects of their lives.

Date: 2011-09-16 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annikusrex.livejournal.com
Yeah, but re philosophy of place: post-doc = temporary! In some ways, it's the best time in your life to go to an unfamiliar place--no kids (or even if you had kids in the next few years they'd be young enough that it wouldn't matter where they were going to school/daycare). BTW, W & I are dating again. Whether this is a good or bad thing--everybody has opinions!--my moving to Chicago to do the best thing for *my* career didn't inevitably end our relationship. Also, other ladies can do whatever they like, but I know you, and it is my educated opinion that you will not be happy without a career of some sort or other. (This does not exclude a teaching-focused position, of course.)

Date: 2011-09-16 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rebeccmeister.livejournal.com
You know, regarding you and W dating again - huh. My instant reaction is that I don't have an opinion other than to hope things go well for both of you. I'm personally pessimistic about the fate of long-distance relationships, but there are exceptions to the general trend.

And yes, you're right, postdoc=temporary. I am reminding myself of that frequently. The difference in philosophy between myself and my brother stems more from where/how we do our research. He has traveled extensively over the past two years to chase after hummingbirds all over central and south America. My feeling is, I'd prefer to study an organism in its place without having to jet-set all over the globe. I do contradict myself, there, because I have flown to a number of different places over the past eight years. But that's mostly what I mean.

A lot of academic biologists fly all over the place, to different study sites and to professional meetings. I am hoping that that won't be so necessary for me.

Date: 2011-09-16 09:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bluepapercup
I understand the desire to not write when things are in deep flux, or when strong opinions might change at any moment. I'm here to say I hear what you are saying from where you are now, and if you change your mind later, I won't judge you or doubt your strong character.

You're struggling with things that I think a lot of women at our age and level of eduction struggle with. There is no right or wrong answer. I do feel, personally, that there are powerful ways to grow, give, and lead while staying in once place for a long period of time. Whether that is what your thoughts will lead you to, I don't know.

Texas

Date: 2011-09-16 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Rebecca, I'm sure Texas is not that bad. I mean, it's not like AZ is the cradle of liberalism. And there are nice people everywhere - I'm sure you're find people to talk to and befriend. I hope you can find a good place to live free of pesticides. It might be helpful to add the medical reason for looking for such a place in your flyer. People tend to be more understanding to such reasons (as opposed to "green" reasons). Anyway, one of my friend recently moved to a little place in Southeast TX by the ocean (or maybe it's an island off the shore of TX) and so far she loves it. Besides - it's temporary.

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