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I have invited a family member up for Thanksgiving who can't do onions*, corn, or peanuts. The stuffed pumpkin recipe that I have is heavily onion-dependent. Main ingredients:

onions, breadcrumbs, Swiss cheese, sage, nutmeg, cream

Can you help me think of some riffs to replace the onions? So far I'm thinking celery.

...it looks like I'm going to have to brave the grocery shopping crowds again.



*Can't do onions, leeks, or shallots. Garlic is OK!

Date: 2021-11-21 07:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] graydon

Mustard powder -- the kind that's nothing but ground mustard and probably comes in a glass jar -- will sharpen anything.

I would not go for celery -- too wet, and maybe bitter -- but radishes and fancy beets. (The stripy red-white kind, etc. fancy beets; these lack the tendency of the modern very dark red beet to collapse into sludge when baked.) A radish-beet mix can be about the correct degree of damp and the mustard will sharpen the radishes up but if it's all radishes it will likely be too sharp. It's lamentably radish-dependent but I' guess a third radishes, two-thirds beets. (Beets go well with both cheese and garlic, so heaving some garlic powder in there may well help.)

Date: 2021-11-22 12:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] graydon

You're welcome!

Pumpkin is a wide country; if it's not a pie-pumpkin and I can see beets working but not if the proportion of bread is high. (I was thinking it was the "cup of crumbs to avoid soup" breadcrumbs.)

Heirloom beets and goat cheese works pretty well; one can take golden beets and slit them like you were slicing them just not all the way down to the bottom and introduce slivers of goat cheese in the slits and then bake. Might want to parboil the beets first (kinds depends on the size and resolve of the beets) and might also want to drizzle with walnut oil somewhere in the baking process. (If you're going to parboil, I found that, perversely, you slice first.)

Date: 2021-11-22 02:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] graydon

Parboiled figs are proto-jam, yes. :)

Date: 2021-11-22 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You could also just roast red beets ahead of time. Throw them in a dish with some bulgur to soak up the juices. Maybe add some garlic powder to the mix, too. The bulgur will soak up all that flavor, and you can then dump the whole mess in with the other ingredients before stuffing and roasting the pumpkin…

Date: 2021-11-21 08:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scrottie
Asafoetida.

Date: 2021-11-21 08:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cmcmck
Fennel maybe?

Date: 2021-11-22 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jameswatriss
I was thinking fennel, too. With maybe some tarragon, and coriander to do sweet-ish/ savory.

Date: 2021-11-21 09:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bluepapercup
celeriac! bit of celery flavor but it's basically a root vegetable so it's not wet and gives good texture. you could mix it with the garlic, mustard, or asafoetida suggested above and I think it would do well.

Date: 2021-11-21 10:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mallorys_camera
Celery, yeah. And carrots. And what about chives?

Fennel too, I suppose, if you can bear that licorice-y flavor. But I'm thinking fennel might not be the easiest thing to come by this time of year.

Date: 2021-11-22 12:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] conuly
In a pinch, a small amount of asafoetida can be used to give an "oniony" taste to a dish that has no onions.

However, if you don't normally do the sort of cooking that would require you to have asafoetida on hand, this may be going overboard.

Date: 2021-11-22 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] rainswolf
I think celery could be good.
It reminds me of the idea of stuffing. Once my mother put mushrooms in it and that was good. Also, dried cherries or raisins.

Date: 2021-11-23 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jameswatriss
I keep thinking about this one. Last year I made a few iterations of stuffed squash last year, starting with scoring the squash halves, and adding butter, maple syrup, and garlic powder to the halves before roasting. (Then I added rice pilaf with orzo, and goat cheese.)

It occurs to me you might be able to fry up some minced garlic in butter, add maple syrup to combine, and then use that. The flavor should be close enough to onion…

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