Three is Plenty [boatbuilding]
Oct. 24th, 2024 08:54 amThere haven't been as many new and different observations to share while applying the epoxy to the inside, now that I actually have the epoxy.
And I wanted to wait until I could put my hands on the boat this morning, before making any firm declarations of what I suspected, but now I can say that I get to stop at 3 coats instead of 4 for the inside of the boat. There are a couple of small patches that are still rough to the touch, but I have to figure I'll probably be patching again anyway. And so, back to sanding! Soon.
Yesterday when I went outside to start warming up the garage, it also occurred to me that I could use that time to start tackling some of the drips and bumps and runs.
For instance, here's a spot where I think I got distracted after coat #1 because dinnertime was approaching. These are some particularly egregious drips, and after I noticed them I was much more careful about the gunwales.

This carbide scraper, plus the teardrop one, plus the square cabinet scraper, helped to take the drips down most of the way. I definitely agree with the person on a boatbuilding forum who professed a preference for scraping over sanding.

But I did have to follow up with a little bit of sanding. A certain amount of sanding is unavoidable.
Periodically, little bits of sponge flecked off of the epoxy roller, too, and got stuck in the fresh epoxy. Probably this is less of a problem when epoxy is applied at temperatures closer to the upper thermal limit, where the epoxy is much less viscous. I did read some commentary from an experienced boatbuilder who makes it a point to generally apply seal/finish coats at warmer shop temperatures for more ideal epoxy flow. That's probably easier to accomplish in a shop that isn't one's mother's uninsulated garage that's just a little too short for the boat, in the late fall.

Thankfully the paint roller flecks aren't particularly hard to remove with a scraper.

So my strategy for prepping the inside from here will be to sand everything, mostly just to identify the high and low spots and most horrible lumps and dips. Then I'll scrape any egregiously terrible areas, sand some more, and most likely patch again. Then clean, wash, clean, and varnish.
Interestingly, the literature that came with the boatbuilding class does include the suggestion of a set of cabinet scrapers, even though I haven't found them to be the most useful out of the scrapers I've acquired. Actually, they're still more useful than the riffle rasp set. I'm glad now that I didn't try to spring for the more expensive riffle rasps. I'm also just glad to have learned so much more about scrapers. The bigger carbide paint scrapers look amazing to me now.
I might do some test sanding this afternoon. I learned from fillet-patching the inside, that it's pretty easy to tell if the epoxy hasn't yet cured enough, because it gums, rubs, or peels instead of turning into horrible microscopic dust. Yesterday when I was scraping I could tell that the epoxy had barely set enough to be able to scrape, even. I could scrape flakes but they would occasionally get gummed up on the edge of the scraper. In any case, soon I'll either be into full-bore sanding, or I'll be waiting to start until Friday.
Two more photos for fun.
One, a look at how lovely the interior is after the third coat of epoxy:

As long as you don't look *too* closely.

That's the biggest fiberglass/epoxy bubble on the boat, and I must not have noticed what was happening when I put the first epoxy coat on. Unless I break through while sanding, I'm just going to leave that one alone for now. I'm less concerned about that on the inside as compared to the outside.
There are also a number of pretty obvious scratches and other blemishes, but I'll live with them and call it a learning experience, because I'm certainly not going to sand back down to smooth them out NOW. And ultimately they won't affect the boat's function.
And I wanted to wait until I could put my hands on the boat this morning, before making any firm declarations of what I suspected, but now I can say that I get to stop at 3 coats instead of 4 for the inside of the boat. There are a couple of small patches that are still rough to the touch, but I have to figure I'll probably be patching again anyway. And so, back to sanding! Soon.
Yesterday when I went outside to start warming up the garage, it also occurred to me that I could use that time to start tackling some of the drips and bumps and runs.
For instance, here's a spot where I think I got distracted after coat #1 because dinnertime was approaching. These are some particularly egregious drips, and after I noticed them I was much more careful about the gunwales.

This carbide scraper, plus the teardrop one, plus the square cabinet scraper, helped to take the drips down most of the way. I definitely agree with the person on a boatbuilding forum who professed a preference for scraping over sanding.

But I did have to follow up with a little bit of sanding. A certain amount of sanding is unavoidable.
Periodically, little bits of sponge flecked off of the epoxy roller, too, and got stuck in the fresh epoxy. Probably this is less of a problem when epoxy is applied at temperatures closer to the upper thermal limit, where the epoxy is much less viscous. I did read some commentary from an experienced boatbuilder who makes it a point to generally apply seal/finish coats at warmer shop temperatures for more ideal epoxy flow. That's probably easier to accomplish in a shop that isn't one's mother's uninsulated garage that's just a little too short for the boat, in the late fall.

Thankfully the paint roller flecks aren't particularly hard to remove with a scraper.

So my strategy for prepping the inside from here will be to sand everything, mostly just to identify the high and low spots and most horrible lumps and dips. Then I'll scrape any egregiously terrible areas, sand some more, and most likely patch again. Then clean, wash, clean, and varnish.
Interestingly, the literature that came with the boatbuilding class does include the suggestion of a set of cabinet scrapers, even though I haven't found them to be the most useful out of the scrapers I've acquired. Actually, they're still more useful than the riffle rasp set. I'm glad now that I didn't try to spring for the more expensive riffle rasps. I'm also just glad to have learned so much more about scrapers. The bigger carbide paint scrapers look amazing to me now.
I might do some test sanding this afternoon. I learned from fillet-patching the inside, that it's pretty easy to tell if the epoxy hasn't yet cured enough, because it gums, rubs, or peels instead of turning into horrible microscopic dust. Yesterday when I was scraping I could tell that the epoxy had barely set enough to be able to scrape, even. I could scrape flakes but they would occasionally get gummed up on the edge of the scraper. In any case, soon I'll either be into full-bore sanding, or I'll be waiting to start until Friday.
Two more photos for fun.
One, a look at how lovely the interior is after the third coat of epoxy:

As long as you don't look *too* closely.

That's the biggest fiberglass/epoxy bubble on the boat, and I must not have noticed what was happening when I put the first epoxy coat on. Unless I break through while sanding, I'm just going to leave that one alone for now. I'm less concerned about that on the inside as compared to the outside.
There are also a number of pretty obvious scratches and other blemishes, but I'll live with them and call it a learning experience, because I'm certainly not going to sand back down to smooth them out NOW. And ultimately they won't affect the boat's function.