Technically, you are correct, re: depressing, heh. Re: salt lake, I've seen it but I haven't been in, I was just driving through. I kinda wanted to try, but not enough to wade in at midnight by myself, slosh around without any particular bathing suit, and then get soddenly back into my car and continue hauling ass westward towards my appointment with getting broken up with by my girlfriend of the time destiny. [rueful grin]